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MattS's avatar

Here are the walls you’re running into.

1) There are no Mens leagues. There are women’s teams and Open teams. If a woman trans or otherwise coukd qualify for the NFL she would. There is no gender bar in “men’s” sports.

2) You are suffering from the Apex Fallacy. Many men compete in sports who never win. Do you want trans athletes to compete? Or do you want them to win. No one denied Lia Thomas the right to swim in the open division (men’s) she just never won.

3) Trans men don’t compete in open divisions for the same reason they aren’t clamoring to go to Men’s Prisons. Can we at some point be real please?

4) your case by case basis for of biomechanics measurement is unworkable. What is the benchmark? The champion or the historical fiftieth percentile? Just utter nonsense upon even cursory inspection

If this is truly the steel man argument, it’s laughable.

Chris Byron's avatar

Take a look at women professional hockey players. These women are olympic level athletes and have won gold in the past. They play with 15 and 16 boys and still lose. Please let that sink in for a bit.

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